35 thoughts on “December 12, 2016

    • What’s that got to do with a box of food for the poor? Even in a great country there will be poor people. As for America flushing itself down the toilet, maybe things will improve after January 20. And before you complain about the president-elect, remember the current president has had 8 years to fix things, and has only made them worse. Sorry for the political stuff but I’m guessing that’s what you were getting at.

      • Preach on. Preach on.

        But stating facts to morons is like finger painting with shit. It may be art, but it’ll always be shit. They believe facts, science, nature, and math are all racist to begin with.

      • You are not taking into consideration the fact that economies move very slowly. Our current president entered the White House in the middle of the Wall Street subprime loan /housing bubble crisis, something he had virtually zero responsibility for. Zero. This was largely the result of policies put in place decades ago, (see the CRA, first passed in 1977), and economic practices promoted by Reagan and Ayn Rand’s accolyte Alan Greenspan. As soon as Obama took office, the very floor fell out from beneath him. And because he was hated by the right, the GOP spent the next eight years with only one agenda: Obstruct Obama. So it is extraordinarily disingenuous to say that Obama had 8 years to “fix things” and didn’t. Even if both houses of Congress had been solidly democratic, the recovery from that crisis would still have been slow. Where we are today is in a position of slow but sustainable growth. Manufacturing jobs are up. Auto sales are up. Unemployment has returned to reasonable if not optimal levels. Green energy production has increased. This guy was captain of a ship that had an iceberg thrown at it on practically day 1 of his commission, and he not only kept the boat from sinking but did so through a minefield planted by the opposition.

        If you want to understand why things were not “fixed” to your satisfaction, look no farther than the phenomenon of incomprehensible partisanship and political polarization that exists in our country today, and a distinct lack of critical thinking among the electorate.

        And this from someone who has voted Republican for most of his 60-plus years.

        • I agree with a lot of your points there. I’m not a fan of Obama but only because under his administration we went a little debt crazy there. I understand that most problems can’t be fixed without spending more money, but it just seemed a little excessive. Also, while I appreciate the idea of Obamacare, his execution of it could have been better, especially the whole get healthcare or be penalized. Yes everyone should have healthcare, but that should also be everyone’s personal choice.

      • “And before you complain about the president-elect, remember the current president has had 8 years to fix things, and has only made them worse.”

        Do trumpanzees ever do any actual research, or just regurgitate the same ill informed anti-Obama rhetoric the right usually does?

        • I’m assuming the Tumpanzees as you like to call them do the same research as CNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS before spouting out ill informed opinions.

  1. Ugh Marla don’t you know your basically collecting trash to send to the food pantry with a canned food drive? If you actually want to help a local food bank it’s better to collect money.

    And before you say if, I know some people don’t have extra money. However, just getting old cans out of your pantry is worse than not donating anything cause half the cans you donate are statistically going to be expired and thus unusable and the food pantry in question will have to pay someone or use up precious volunteer hours to sort them. The other option is buying fresh from the store cans, but if you where to take the 5 dollars you were going to spend to be someone else’s personal shopper and gave it the food bank instead they could use it to buy fresh food at wholesale prices or from local producers at reduced rates.

    Canned drives should never be used with a group above age 10.

    • slicey,
      You’re absolutely right.
      I volunteered at the local food pantry for four years. It was absolutely unreal. People would be moving and clean out their entire cupboard, including opened and half empty jars of peanut butter, jelly, mayonnaise, whatever. Cans would not only be expired but rusty, damaged, even bulging. We’d get surplus produce from local gardens that the donator didn’t bother to wash or failed to sort out produce that had gone all squishy.
      And a significant number of volunteers were worthless. We gave out pre-packed bags so it was important to know what people with diabetes or certain allergies couldn’t eat, or what “kosher” and “halal” meant, or the difference between “vegan” and “vegetarian”, or how to tell if food was actually expired–as opposed to “sell by”, not the same.
      And some volunteers were not quite right in the head. There was one who would sort through the garbage and take food that had been thrown out home. She didn’t use it herself. She left it, as a donation, on the front steps of her neighbors. Needless to say, we got a lot of calls from her neighbors.
      An in-store donation box has a better chance of actually collecting food that is still fit to be eaten because customers buy the food in-store. Except Grumbels doesn’t sell food.
      I guess it’s the thought that counts

    • I would never give cash to charity because it cannot be tracked and is too easily stolen. With a toy drive you give a toy you know that toy is going to a kid because it’s not worth any adult’s time to steal an $8 ninja turtle and re-sell it on ebay. You buy a can of food and you know it’ll get to a hungry person because what else is anyone going to do with a can of food? Expiration dates? Isn’t the point of canning food is that they last for eons? People hoard this stuff for the apocalypse. I would feel much safer that my can of green beans is going to the needy rather than my stack of green bills possibly ending up in dishonest charity person’s pocket.

      • And yet, charities need cash to do things like pay the light bill, pay staff, and perform basic work with clients.

        Philanthropic work takes actual money. If you don’t trust a given charity, don’t give to it, but to assume that all non-profits are going to steal your donation or mis-spend it is silly at best.

        I’ve worked for a non-profit for 10 years; in kind donations can be great but they don’t pay for our building cost, they don’t pay for our specialized software, HIPPA compliant data storage or any number of other things. Not to mention salaries (hey, I believe in our mission but I have to pay rent and eat too).

      • If you don’t trust the charity your working with, why donate to them. You know if you use a check made out to the charity you will have proof of your donation right? And food pantries have to follow the same health and safety guidelines as businesses, so while the food inside may still be edible if the date outside is in the past that can will go into the trash.

      • I had some toys saved for our office’s Christmas toy drive, and then I found out we’re not doing it this year. We did a food drive at the same time, and apparently some of our employees were taking the food home with them. (This is why I stopped putting my lunch in the break room refrigerator.)

      • There is always donating gift cards for grocery stores. My workplace donates these to a local homeless shelter. Then you are giving food, but the shelter can buy what they need rather than having really random things you can’t make a meal out of.

        • Around here, the markets have coupons at the register for the local food bank. Pick a denomination, the cashier scans the bar code, it gets added to your bill and the money goes into the food bank’s account. No cash involved.

          My only complaint is that it’s only done during the holidays. As if people aren’t hungry year round. Yes, there are other ways to give, but this makes it very easy. And my take on it is that if I can afford to buy non-essentials, I can afford to give.

          For what it’s worth, on the occasions I do donate food (rare, because I usually forget to bring something), I either check the expiration date or buy something new. But on some canned food, the dates aren’t easy to decipher.

  2. Once it’s donated, nobody will know what came from Grumbels, or who even donated…so it really doesn’t matter if it’s anonymous or attached to blinking neon lights saying “Donated by Grumbels” It all gets put in the same stack of donated foods and sorted for distribution.

    • What can you do? There are just some people out there who want to have their cake and eat it too, then complain that they would have preferred another flavor, and “Why can’t I have seconds? Well, then there should have been enough for everyone to have a slice to begin with!” and so on and so on…

    • Stuart wants it both ways.

      “Did Corporate say you could do this?” (If they didn’t say to do it, it’s a bad idea.)

      “Why can’t Corporate take the credit?” (If we could say it’s our idea, it’s a good one.)

      Oh, and that’s the break room, not the sales floor, so Marla is really only soliciting donations from the employees.

      Which is why asking for money instead would never have worked …

  3. Hopefully, before this goes any further, Marla will point out that if he ahs her remove it, then they’ll have news reports about Grumbel’s banning charity drives.

      • Cue a glorious news segment where Donnie tells the local newscaster how even though he makes minimum wage, he was still planning on going to the supermarket and buying some of his favorite canned soups and boxed cookies for the food drive “because everyone deserves to have a decent meal on Christmas,” but now he can’t even do that because the Grumbel’s DM banned food drives.

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