Everywhere I’ve worked, the second they say “It’s a service animal” the conversation is over. You aren’t allowed to ask “What kind of service?”
I think that applies to big dog, the one she has fits inside a purse. I don’t think you can use that excuse for dog that small.
Thats bloody retarded. If you are not even allowed to ask what service then why even bother with the no dogs sign?
And why are children allowed in stores over dogs? Children shed, scream, slobber, booger and run everywhere, just unruly. To top it off leashes don’t help keep children under control at all.
technically, if they’re not wearing a service dog vest, you can continue asking.
There are small service dogs. Some are used to spot the onset of an epileptic seizure. In any case most dogs, especially ones like purse dogs that never touch the floor, are more sanitary than most customers. I prefer the dogs.
This is one of the things that annoy me about my retail job. So many of our rules that are directed at the customers (i.e. leaving their dogs at home, not bringing a loaded cart of items to the express checkout) are hardly ever enforced. Makes you wonder why they still list them as rules.
My favorite was when a customer brought his dog in the cart with a full load of groceries through the express lane!
At my store service animals have to have some kind of vest or collar saying that they are actually service animals. If they don’t have one then we don’t allow them in the store.
exactly. One can’t just claim “service” dog status. They have to be identifiable as such, with a tag or vest. I didn’t almost question one one time, it was a small dog, a yorkie or something like that. But once I got close I saw his vest and a tag, he was trained to warn of seizures.
Not all places are the same. At Walmart the moment the customer says “service animal”, you can not ask any more questions. They don’t have to have any type of vest or tag on either.
Actual you can’t require that in the US, you can’t require papers or a vest or even ask what kind of service (aka Marla just did something illegal).
This gives people lots of chances to get around it like this woman.
You can ask what service the animal provides.
“”When it is not obvious what service an animal provides, only limited inquiries are allowed. Staff may ask two questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability, and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform. Staff cannot ask about the person’s disability, require medical documentation, require a special identification card or training documentation for the dog, or ask that the dog demonstrate its ability to perform the work or task.”
Some states allow you to ask the service, some states don’t. And the reason is; it’s violating the person’s legal right to medical privacy. What service the person requires from their animal (and only dogs and horses are legal service animals) is medical information, and therefore legally private.
Asking what service the dog performs does not require complete revelation as an answer. A detector dog can detect a plethora of conditions. On the flip side, a hearing dog indicates someone who will need some other means to communicate than vocal. Staff should be able to have a vague confirmation for hygiene reasons and that of the safety of other consumers
I’ve been told it’s illegal to ask anything about service animals, and if I do, the customer could sue the store and I could lose my job. Or at least the irate customer told me when I mentioned a service monkey that could operate a microwave, and could her dog do any cool stuff like operate light switches. Most people with service animals volunteer the information and tell the story of how their dog saved their life with tears in their eyes.
Ugh, disabled people run into two camps for me: ones who are nice, and ones who think their disabilities entitle them to being assholes.
The asshole ones are the worse. Or more specifically, the “handlers” of said disabled folks. I remember one disabled kid, he had two “babysitters” who would come into the bookshop, grab some books, and drag the books and him to an isolated corner of the store. Well, this kid in particular had a “nasty” habit of pissing in his pants and onto the carpet. And wouldn’t you know it, his “handlers” would just dump the books and leave without informing us of the accident. And a customer would see this wet spot on the carpet and we had to clean it. I dunno how or what the circumstances were, but it got to the point where his mother came into the store one day and accused us of violating her son’s rights under the ADA (I had no idea pissing yourself, leaving a mess, and not informing the property owners was covered under the ADA). And I have to wonder if this kid is going thru hell with his inept handlers and his Mom who is using her sons disability to get her way.
Ugh, I hate people like that. It really reflects terribly on the rest of the people with [insert whatever disability it is here]. -_-’
“Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law”
You left out the important part: “An (if) it harm none….”
The second part was added as part of the Wiccan Rede in 1964. The original quote by Aleister Crowley did not include it. It was most likely added on to soften the psychopathic nature of the original quote.
A “service dog” would NOT be carried around in a purse.
Ah, so service dogs are only the big ones that guide people? What if it is, as people mentioned above, a small dog trained to warn of incoming seizures, or any other medical condition?
Correct. Some smaller dogs are also companions provided to assist their owners with their social agoraphobia.
There is no such thing as social agoraphobia. It can be Social Phobia, or Panic Disorder with Agoraphobia. Agoraphobia is not a codable disorder, and social agoraphobia does not exist.
The problem with that is the typical cue for such dogs is to lick their palm or some specific notion that needs to be done from the ground. Also, the reason that only service dogs or pups in training are allowed in such places is because of strict training (they don’t go to relieve themselves without a command for example). 99% of service dogs are also clearly labelled so they are not disturbed by squeeing kids.
Besides, the dog clearly isn’t a service dog because she hesitated.
Back at the Hardware store, we had dogs, cats, horses, trailers with goats, cattle, pigs, and even a lady with an iguana on her back and another lady with a monkey on her head.
I thought it was an ugly hat till it moved.
I like the dog’s face in the 3rd panel…
Even the dog’s just like “WTF?” at that point
Regardless of Marla’s question, I think it is the customer’s response that it worth a mention. A secret service dog. That type of “service” would not fall under any legal protection. Just saying
Yeah, but it’s probably easier to just let her do it than to argue it with her and to make her see that.
What I hate are the customers that just drive to the store with their dogs and leave them in the car while they shop. Then what was the POINT of bringing your dog anywhere anyway if they’re just going to be able to just sit in the car and nothing else? Just leave your dog at home. It isn’t worth it to take them out in the car anyway if you aren’t driving them to the park.
People who abuse the “service animal” laws are a huge irritation to me.
I work in a drug store and we had a manager who would rant up and down that people could not bring dogs in the store. More than once I told her about people in the store with dogs who would flat out say they were not service animals, she go stomping off to kick them out….see the dog and go “Oh what a cute doggy!What kind is it? I have a dog too…”
Problem for me when people bring animals into work is that I’m allergic to animal dander and can go from fine to miserable pretty quickly. Generally I don’t think animals really have a place in a store, especially ones that carry groceries, unless they are service animals. I’m more forgiving of Kittens or Puppies, especially if it’s a quick trip and they’re really young, but if the weather is decent and/or you have a spare key to keep the car running while you’re in the store and you have the animal with you, I don’t see the point in bring it into the store.
I work in a coffee shop… It’s crazy how many people think it’s okay to bring their dogs in. I have had a couple people get quite mad with me when I told them they could not have them in the store. I love dogs. I have two. But I do not for a moment think that they have any place in a store; particularly a restaurant of any sort. Some people do not like them; some are allergic or deathly afraid of them. People need to learn to respect that. Besides that, we can be fined pretty severely if we’re caught allowing animals in the store.
On the other hand, I had to get after my boss once for trying to throw out a woman with a clearly marked service dog.
You can get away with a lot when you’re the only employee…
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I work at a Gas Station/Convenience Store that sells a variety of food products. I have had countless people bring in pets and have had to tell them you cannot bring your pet inside the store. One customer had little dog and even said “It’s just a little dog, he’s not hurting anyone”. I often default to the excuse that as a food service establishment, we cannot allow non-service animals for sanitation reasons. If the health inspector came in and saw the animal, we would be fined.
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