30 thoughts on “June 24, 2016

  1. Not…strictly true. Experience, specialized knowledge, and a good attitude are other qualities companies look for. Not necessarily in retail, but most other industries look for more than just a good work ethic in their employees.

    • But Clifford, experience, specialized knowledge, good attitude are of no value if they come with a poor work ethic.

    • I think the idea is that while you should always do your best job regardless of how much you’re payed, companies need to pay you a competitive salary or risk another company making you a better offer. Work ethic and company loyalty are two very different things.

      • And there’s also one’s own character to consider – I work hard and try to do a good job no matter where I’m working because it can help me find other jobs, but also because it’s generally the right thing to do.

        Also: Cooper is no slacker. Nobody that productive or efficient is. He’s just a smartass.

  2. I’m over worked and underpaid, unless I work overtime which I do a lot. the taxes are terrible and the benefits don’t help much. So yeah almost 50 a week. A hundred dollars come out of my paycheck

  3. So how does Bryce correlate his beliefs with the facts of Stuart’s high pay scale and low job performance?

    People should do a good job even IF they’re highly overpaid.

  4. Cooper’s right, I learned that the hard way. Worked my butt off for the same place for almost ten years and all they did was give me more work instead of promoting or giving more pay….because they could. Don’t do that anymore…$9 an hour gets $9 worth of effort, no more no less.

    • The real problem is that for many jobs, especially corporate retail, it’s not about whether or not the employee is doing a good job; it’s about the bottom line (remember the long ago storyline of Marla trying to keep a higher-paid employee over Courtney?).

      The flip side is that if the employee never does a good job, she/he never justifies a higher salary. Remember that one of Marla’s first actions as manager was getting Cooper to a higher pay scale? In fact, Cooper’s forgetting, since Marla knew his value as an employee, but wanted him to cut off the slacking.

      So…no real easy answers, and they’re both wrong and right. Welcome to life.

  5. They both have a point, but I think Cooper’s point trumps Brice’s. Employers expect employees to give it their all since there are others waiting for the job if someone slacks off. It’s pretty sad.

    • I don’t think that there are too many people waiting for minimum wage jobs anymore. I see “hiring now” signs all over the place where I live. I think the myth that others are waiting for my job so I better not complain, work some crazy schedule, ask for a raise, or promotion, etc., is being promoted by big companies to make sure workers keep quiet and don’t look for better work elsewhere.

      • MaryC,
        I live in one of those small towns that have devolved into litlle more than bedroom communities attached to the next town over. We do, however, have a gas statin, grocery store, car repair place, and two bars. The gas station has been understaffing for years. They hire people, mostly women, to work a ten hour shift by themselves, no breaks. at slightly more than minimum wage, no benefits. These women are also responsible for cleaning the place, restocking shelves, operating what amounts to a fast food restaurant (gas station style), as well as cashiering and keeping an eye on the gas pumps. The owner got away with overworking staff during the worst of the recession. A lot of the people they hired had “problems”, but they didn’t quit because there was no place else to go. Good workers were stuck and stayed on the job until overwork and workplace injuries forced them to leave.
        What happened was that word got around that this was a terrible place to work, and replacing staff who quit or were fired got more and more difficult. The advantages of working for a small “family owned” local business within walking distance no longer made up for the long hours, heavy lifting, no breaks, crabby customers, and getting yelled at when thieves gassed up and drove off without paying.
        The gas station is open 5 AM to 10 PM seven days a week and had four people to cover all the shifts. Then one quit, leaving three and I found out yesterday that all three had given notice and as of next week, the gas station will have no staff at all.

        • But think of the money the owner will be saving in labour costs!! /sarcasm (in case it wasn’t obvious)

          I will never understand business who chronically understaff. Do they think customers don’t notice they had to wait 15 minutes just to pay for gas? It happened at my old job all the time – they had 3 full time associates (myself included) leave over the course of 2 years and hired 2 casual part timers to ‘replace’ them. Don’t even count the 3 casual pt’s they lost in addition to the ft’s. And it wasn’t the store manager’s fault – I would hear on the phone to the district manager and being continually told that there is a ‘hiring freeze’. Really? For 3 years?! Glad to be out of there but I feel bad for those left behind.

  6. If I were Cooper, I’d be all over Brice about that ‘slacker’ remark. Especially after that fiasco a couple of weeks ago where Brice wrongfully accused Cooper of negligence.

    Cooper probably does more work in the first hour of his shift than Brice does all day. And Cooper is far more competent at his particular job than Brice is at his. I do agree that you should do your job well, but these days, the expectations versus what they’re willing to pay are ridiculous.

    I tend to side with Cooper on this. Cooper has the more realistic view of how things are.

    • Cooper is proud of being a slacker, though. So why would he take offense? 🙂 You’re right though, he’s super efficient… so he can be a slacker.

      • Thank you! That’s often been my attitude — you’re not a slacker if you’re competent and efficient enough with your work to do it with time to spare.

    • I wish the world worked like Brice sees it where everyone does the job right even if the pay is not great, I know I tend to work harder than I have to sometimes. However the sad reality is that in a retail setting 99% of the time there is no real reward for going above the minimum, so I can see Cooper’s point and I get why so many workers operate that way.

      • Then you have people like me: I have strange disabilities that effectively make me a ‘slacker’ whether I want to be or not (can’t multitask, slower at things than others, easily distracted, ect.). Yes, I CAN force myself to work harder and faster for a while- but I’ll pay for it by not being able to function at all!
        Not everyone that looks like a slacker is actually a slacker.

  7. There are two kinds of slackers, really; those that really do slack off and do not get the work done and those who, like Cooper, entertain themselves while getting the job done. They look like they are enjoying themselves so how could they be working, so clearly others must be getting the work done. I had a coworker like that. Management was sure he was a jack-off, they were preparing to fire him when he had to be gone for a while (mother died). Management asked why a certain-very popular-thing wasn’t being done and was told ” Oh, Joseph usually does that. Management looked at him differently after that, or at least they paid attention and saw what he did. Of course, our management wasn’t stupid.

    • I remember one of my supervisors being like this about PT when I was active duty. If we were having fun while exercising or laughing, we “obviously weren’t working hard enough”.

      Apparently exercise isn’t supposed to be fun.

  8. Who decides whether your work is good enough to earn you a raise? Corporate. And we all know how impossible it is to get ahead in that culture, because they fully intend to keep total wages paid at a certain level. That’s why nobody ever gets a perfect score on their employee evaluation. When the boss holds all the cards, you can work your butt off doing the work of five people and never see any reward over your base pay. You can’t get ahead that way.

  9. I’m not hostile to Brice’s point. But, I can’t help thinking that it should be matched with a strong pay ethic, in which companies pay at least a living wage, with regular raises, whether the employees are noticed for being hard workers or not.

    Because, here’s the thing, employers are a lot more likely to make mistakes in estimating how hard employees are working than employees are in estimating how much employers are paying.

  10. To be honest, both Brice and Cooper have a point. It really depends on two things:
    1. What is considered doing your job well? Cooper gets all of his assigned work done, and makes very few mistakes. Under those criteria, he’s actually a fairly good employee, since you can give him a task and let him get on with it.
    2. how are had workers compensated for the extra effort? To be blunt, when a worker who works hard is paid almost the same as a worker who doesn’t work as hard, they will get increasingly cross. (basically, if you have a good employee, don’t simply give them more work for the same wage. If you give an employee more responsibility, give them a wage increase to accompany it. ( it doesn’t have to be as simplistic as twice the pay for twice the work, but there should be a noticeable difference in the pay between a good employee and a bad one.)

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